Sunday, January 19, 2020

TheList 5194

The List 5194     TGB

To All,

A bit of everything for some light reading  in case your football teams did as bad a mine did last weekend. None of my picks won .





Start off with those who move toward the sound of trouble to save others

Thanks to Carl

How 2 Marines and a sailor saved lives during Pensacola shooting - Task & Purpose


How 2 Marines and an injured sailor saved lives during the NAS Pensacola shooting

 Gina Harkins, 

January 16, 2020


Marine Gunnery Sgt. Ryan Masel and Staff Sgt. Samuel Mullins weren't carrying any weapons when they heard gunfire inside a building on their Florida base last month. Still, they ran inside, planning to confront the shooter.

As they charged toward the sound of gunfire, the Marines pulled a fire extinguisher off the wall and prepared to fight. Navy Airman Ryan Blackwell was inside the building when the Dec. 6 attack at Naval Air Station Pensacola started. The gunman, a Saudi officer who was training at the base, shot him five times through an office window.

Despite his injuries, Blackwell jumped on top of another sailor to shield her from the gunfire. He then helped lead the other sailors to safety -- all while continuing to take fire.

The troops' courageous acts were highlighted by U.S. Attorney General William Barr this week. In his press conference, Barr said the FBI determined the shooting, which killed three sailors and injured several others, was a terrorist attack.

"Ryan Blackwell's heroic acts saved countless lives that day, and we're grateful to the bravery of the base personnel and the local law enforcement responders who initially arrived at the scene and engage the shooter," Barr said.

The Marines and sailor declined requests for interviews. Their commands, citing ongoing investigations, won't say whether their actions have led to nominations for heroism awards.

"No award information will be released for any service member or civilian prior to official announcement," said Cmdr. James Stockman, a spokesman for Naval Education and Training Command.

Blackwell, who's from South Carolina, enlisted in the Navy in 2017. According to his service records, he has never deployed. He was in an office with two other sailors when the shooting began.

He told the Pensacola News Journal the day after the attack that the gunman didn't open the office door but shot at them through a window. All three troops were hurt, but Blackwell tied his belt around his arm as a tourniquet and helped usher his colleagues out.

"I wasn't worried about being shot," he told the paper. "I was just worried about getting us to safety and getting us out of there. … We could have been three more casualties if we didn't escape."

Masel and Mullins never faced off against the shooter, but Barr said they helped "save many lives by giving CPR and other urgent medical aid to the victims."

Masel and Mullins, both combat veterans, serve as instructors with Marine Aviation Training Support Group 23 at Pensacola. The training group works with entry-level aviation logistics Marines.

Masel, a 34-year-old MV-22B Osprey aircrew division chief from Wayne, Michigan, deployed to Afghanistan in 2013. Mullins, a 36-year-old CH-53E Super Stallion helicopter crew chief from Jasper, Missouri, deployed to Iraq in 2004 and 2005 and Afghanistan in 2010 and 2011.

Both earned Combat Action Ribbons during those deployments.

The attack has led to a review of the military's international exchange program, which allows foreign troops to train on U.S. military bases. It has also reignited debate over whether service members should be allowed to carry firearms on base.

The 2015 terrorist attack in Chattanooga, Tennessee, another shooting rampage at a recruiting office and naval Reserve center, also prompted lawmakers and military leaders to assess whether troops should be permitted to carry firearms on bases.

Last month, the Marine Corps authorized about 3,200 law enforcement personnel to carry firearms on its installations -- even if they're not on duty.

In the wake of the Pensacola shooting investigation, the U.S. booted 21 Saudi cadets from training programs after some were found to have anti-American or jihadi materials on their computers. Others were found to have child pornography materials, Barr said.

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Thanks to Barrel…..I remember flying like this. Always wore a suit or uniform.

The Golden Age of Flying




Thanks to Denny….Some food for thought

Not sure who wrote this...


When you consider all of the data in my last Rant as a relatively comprehensive measure of the current US economy, it is very hard to see where a recession emanates from in 2020. There is little reason to think the job market is about to fall out of bed, or that interest rates are going to suddenly move materially higher. The Fed is flooding the market with liquidity, and the banks are as solid as they have ever been. The housing market is very strong and way under supplied. While stocks are highly priced, it is much more likely they rise somewhat this year, rather than fall, even with Iran. Jobs remain plentiful and consumers are continuing to spend and save. Low income workers are getting substantial increases in income. With the trade deals now in place, there is only Brexit, and a deal with the EU to be completed. Boris will make a good deal for the UK, and even if it is a hard break instead of a negotiated deal, it is well advertised as to timing, so there is no reason things will not be in place in time to deal with a hard break. He will then rapidly cut a good trade deal with Trump. The EU will be left as the odd man out and will now need to acquiesce to Trump, or he can crush them with tariffs. Impeachment is not an issue. Iran will be a war of some nature, and will be very ugly, but in the end will not negatively impact the US economy other than possibly in a favorable way with ramped up defense spending, and more pumping by frackers. The world economy will remain weak, but it will not impact the US any more than it already has. Tariffs will have a limited impact now. We now control our own oil prices to a great degree. Bottom line, I just do not see how the US economy goes into recession in 2020, unless Trump loses, and I judge that to be highly unlikely.  As further support, some prominent economic forecasters have now backed off their 2020 predictions of a recession by summer, and have agreed one is getting more unlikely this year


If you are considering how to invest money long term for your kids or grandkids, just consider this stat from Barclays   $100 invested in stocks in 1928 would be worth $255,553 in 2013, and far more today. The same $100 invested in Treasuries would equal $6,925 in 2013. While there would be big fluctuations in between in stock values, overtime equities are the far away winner if money is parked for the long term.  if you wish to create real wealth for future generations, the strategy is very obvious.  Just buy a good S&P index fund and put it in trust. Do not pay management fees or commissions to some wealth manager to "balance the portfolio" and end up with far less when the kids cash in years or decades later.


Chinese stocks ended the decade with a loss of 6.9%. That is the only major index in the world with a loss and almost the only one at all. The S&P was tripled, and Stoxx was up 69% while Japan doubled. Boeing is as much as .25% of GDP so when it is back in full production in spring GDP will pop in Q2.


The Iranians have to be worrying how the US knew in perfect detail how and when Soleimani was traveling, down to the car he was in, and exactly when and where to the exact spot on the road. That information had to have been a closely held secret in Iran. They now have to wonder what else do we know in detail and how do we know. With the population in revolt they have to worry that millions of citizens represent a potential spy. Iran has to do something, but I doubt they will launch a major retaliation now that they know Trump is capable of doing anything, and he has carried through on his warnings in a very unexpected way, unlike Obama and the infamous red line that became no line. It has to be a real shock to the system in Iran and elsewhere. They have to believe Trump really will launch a major counter attack this time inside Iran, and he is not bluffing. They can launch dozens of rockets and ground attacks by locals, but we can shoot them down, and then wipe out the launch pads quickly. We then can destroy much of the Iranian military and oil refineries. They also have to figure out what to do to save face, but not to incur a massive response by the US that might set off internal revolts, and  that really creates major problems for them. If Trump launches a major response that destroys refineries and major military bases, then Iran is in a much worse spot than now. Do they declare all out war and attack Israel, in which case they will get totally destroyed by a combined US and Israel mass attack. Or do they do some little thing which loses face for them. Do they try a major cyber-attack on US infrastructure, in which case, we respond with our own cyber attack plus a military attack. The US now has substantial firepower in the area, and much more nearby to call on quickly.  Our forces are ready to launch at a moment's notice. There have been reports that our special forces have been inside Iran doing recon for months, so we are very prepared to destroy key targets quickly.  It is also likely that the CIA and Mossad are inside as well ready to foment further uprisings.


The press and Dems can dither about how many missiles Iran has, or its little navy, or cyberattacks, but we have been preparing for all of this for years. What the Dems and press fail to appreciate is with Trump, Iran is in a lose, lose position. The Dems simply are too stupid, or deeply ingrained in their liberal views to understand projection of power by a determined president, and, most important, the will to use it. They would continue the Obama Biden failed policy of appeasement, and instead Trump is working to eliminate the Mullahs and the Iranian proxies, with hope the anti-Iran forces now revolting in several countries taking over. It is binary - Dems say do nothing, which means increased attacks on Americans by the proxies killing many more Americans, and hoping we leave, as Obama did in Iraq, or the Trump strategy, which is to deal with the problem now and save many lives, and the chance to remake the Mideast. The Dem policy would be to again appease and concede, and in the end Iran would be in control of the Mideast. There would be a war with Israel and/or Saudi where we would have to go to their aid in a much less viable position.  Or they build the bomb, or buy a few from Kim, and we wring our hands and pass UN resolutions.


Not only are we now sending a message to Iran, but also to Kim and Putin. If attacked we will show the world what happens now under Trump, and Kim has already certainly noticed.  There has been no Christmas surprise. Everything is now different going forward. If Iran does do something, and Trump counters with a major attack, which he will, the Dems and the world will dither and run in circles screaming, but Trump will have changed everything in the Mideast, and rectified negligent inaction of the past 40 years on dealing with Iran.  I view a response by Iran as a good event, as it triggers our opportunity to end the Iranian hegemony in the Mideast. Some Americans will die, but doing nothing would have meant many more would die in the end. This is 1938 all over again. The last thing Congress should be doing is passing restrictions on our ability to carry the attack forward.


The other major terrorist killed was Muhandis - the top guy in Iraq running the Shia militias. He was almost as key as Soleimani. We don't know who else was in the car, but they were possibly other senior terrorists. The kill was a massive hit to the terror network taking out both of them plus likely some other top leaders. The militias now are leaderless, and it is unclear where all that goes from here. Soleimani is not replaceable.


The continuing flow of really ignorant, disgraceful, and plainly stupid statements made by Dems related to Iran, is hard to believe. As dumb, and unprincipled as I think most politicians are, I still struggle to get why they say some of what they do, and how they still do not understand what a huge threat Iran represents to the rest of the world order, and our own security. It says a lot about how ignorant most of the press is when they report what Kaepernick or the bartender from the Bronx, or some ignorant actress say.  Why does anyone care what a failed football player says and a kid bartender with a Twitter following has to say. When the press reports on the comments of Omar and Talib, they demonstrate that they rank even lower than I thought possible. Why would you even give these morons air time at all. It is really bad when the Dems were slamming the action before they even heard the briefing, especially Schiff claiming it was done just to deflect from impeachment. That guy should be brought up on ethics charges and removed from chair of intelligence. With him that chair is an oxymoron.


The move by Dems to limit Trump's ability to fight Iran is beyond irresponsible and dumb. Why not just invite the Ayatollah over for tea. What is the military supposed to do.  Oh, its 30 days we now go home if in the middle of a battle??? These people are truly dangerous to our security due to their Trump derangement syndrome. And they introduced that BEFORE they got the briefing


As usual the Europeans are nowhere, but are running away from us in Iraq despite Iran abrogating the entire nuke deal. That is why Trump does not count on allies. They are also dithering despite their own direct experience in 1938. It boggles the mind that the EU is repeating the same stupid policy as 1938, and worrying about not stirring the pot instead of realizing that they have paid a heavy price in terror attacks for years because Iran has been funding and instigating terrorists all that time. It just shows once again that few people learn their history lessons, and this allows horrible people like Hitler, Stalin and the Soleimani to exist and commit mass murder. There can be no peace with a deal with the Mullahs, only their overthrow and destruction will solve the Mideast mess.  Anything else is na├»ve, and just postpones a much worse problem later. Now is the time to act. Appeasement of murderous dictators has always resulted in eventual war.  They treat appeasement as weakness and successful intimidation. The Europeans tried that with Chamberlain - peace in our time. Biden and the Dems and press are spouting the exact same foolish policy.


In 1789, when Napoleon was running rampant across Europe and the Mideast, there was great fear in America that he would send an armada here to invade up through the Mississippi. We had no standing army or navy at the time. There were raging battles in Congress between the royalists who supported English relationship, and the Francophiles. The battles were over raising an army and preparing to take on the French if they invaded. It became extremely bitter. So if you think the battle over taking on Iran is a new event for Congress, go read history.


If you wonder where those tuition dollars are going: the number of diversity staff at Penn State is 66 , U of Mich 93, and Amhurst 19. A considerable number of these worthless people are paid over $100,000 and the deans in charge over $500,000. Yes, that was $500,000 to write memos and give orientation lectures to freshman. And you wonder what the hell kids are learning in university today. These staffs need to justify their existence and salaries so they look for reasons to find problems where none existed. That is your tuition - hard earned dollars being wasted. And that is one main reason why student loans are so out of control.




Thanks to Jim and Dick for this personal note on the article: BRIDGES AT TOKO-RI ' The Real Story by CAPT  Paul N. Gray, USN, Ret, USNA'41, former CO of VF-54      from the List 5188


Believe it or not. the written story by the then C.O. of VA-54 is true, except for the target'S name "Toko-Re". The real name was " me-jin-ne". I was "Tail-end-Charley", flying an F4U in VF-13.

Jim Foster, USN(Retired)




Thanks to GBox


I really don't know or care if Congressman Gowdy actually wrote this or if he didn't….

If he did – my thanks to him for doing so.  If he didn't, I couldn't have summarized my feelings on the subject any better – and thank whoever did write this.


"Been there, done that".………….



Have you seen this conversation in the NEWS?




Trey Gowdy, a South Carolina Congressman, responded to a question from a CNN reporter about the ban of transgenders from joining the U.S. armed forces.  As Trey typically does so very well, he nailed it rather succinctly 


Question:  How can President Trump claim to represent all U.S citizens, regardless of sexual orientation,  when he banned transgenders from joining the military?  Isn't that discrimination? 


Trey Gowdy's Response: 


"Nobody has a right to serve in the Military.  Nobody!  What makes you people think the Military  is an equal opportunity employer?  It is very far from it - and for good reasons - let me cite a few"  

  "The Military uses prejudice regularly and consistently to deny citizens from joining for being too old or too young, too fat or too skinny, too tall or too short.  

Citizens are denied for having flat feet, or for missing or additional fingers." he went on to explain:  


"By the way, poor eyesight will disqualify you, as well as bad teeth. Malnourished?  Drug addiction?  

Bad back?  Criminal history?  Low IQ?  Anxiety? Phobias? Hearing damage? Hear voices in your 

head?  Self-identification as a Unicorn?  Need a special access ramp for your wheelchair?" 

"Can't run the required course in the required time? Can't do the required number of push-ups?  

Not really a morning person? and refuse to get out of bed before noon?  All can be legitimate 

reasons for denial" 


"The Military has one job:  Winning War.  Anything else is a distraction and a liability.  Did 

someone just scream, "That isn't Fair!"   War is VERY unfair, there are no exceptions made 

for being special or challenged or socially wonderful."


"YOU must change yourself to meet Military standards and not the other way around." 

"I say again: You don't change the Military - you must change yourself.  The Military is not about 

being fair, it is about taking advantage of others and about winning. 

The Military doesn't need to accommodate anyone with special issues.   The Military needs to Win 

Wars and keep our Country safe - PERIOD!" 

"If any of your personal issues are a liability that detract from readiness or lethality...  Thank you for 

applying and good luck in future endeavors." 

"..any other questions?"



Thanks to Bio

Have you run anything in The List about the book No Man's Land, by Kevin Sullivan?

This was the Qantas flight in 2008 that had rogue computers; Sully and his crew saved the plane, but he and others are dealing with serious after-effects. It's an excellent book, with all the details about the incident in a well-written style, as well as him crediting his US Navy F-14 experience with contributing to his kit-bag of pilot skills. He deployed with VF-114 twice in the early 1980s.

Thanks! - Bio



This is not the same Sully that landed in the Hudson…..skip

Dave Baranek, callsign: Bio



Thanks to Dr.Rich…….I remember this from quite a while ago and seem to remember that there were some questions on the validity but I could not bring it up in my archives. In any case it is very funny should get a chuckle.  skip


For y'all that are "over the hill..."

This is funny.  It sounds just like all of us! You must sing it! 

  Julie Andrews Turns 79, this is hysterical   

To commemorate her birthday , actress/vocalist, Julie Andrews made a special appearance at   Manhattan's Radio City Music Hall  for the benefit of the AARP.  One of the musical numbers she performed was 'My Favourite Things'  from the legendary movie 'The Sound Of Music'.   Here are the lyrics she used: 

(Sing It!) 
- If you sing it, it's especially hysterical!!! 

Botox and nose drops and needles for knitting, 
Walkers and  handrails and new dental fittings, 
Bundles of magazines tied up in string, 
These are a few of my favourite things. 

Cadillacs and cataracts, hearing aids and glasses, 
Polident and Fixodent and false teeth in glasses, 
Pacemakers, golf carts and porches with swings, 
These are a few of my favourite things. 

When the pipes leak, When the bones creak, 
When the knees go bad, 
I simply remember my favourite things, 
   And then I don't feel so bad. 

Hot tea and crumpets and corn pads for bunions, 
No spicy hot food or food cooked with onions, 
Bathrobes and heating pads and hot meals they bring, 
  These are a few of my favourite things. 

Back pain, confused brains and no need for sinnin', 
Thin bones and fractures and hair that is thinnin',   
And we won't mention our short shrunken frames, 
When we remember our favourite things. 

When the joints ache, When the hips break, 
   When the eyes grow dim, 
Then I remember the great life I've had, 
    And then I don't feel so bad. 

>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> 

(Ms. Andrews received a standing ovation from the crowd 
that lasted over four minutes and repeated encores. Please 
share Ms. Andrews' clever wit and humour with others who 
would appreciate it.) 



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Thanks to Rob






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