Monday, December 3, 2018

TheList 4873

The List 4873 TGB

To All,
I hope that you all had a great weekend. This is a Bubba Breakfast Friday in San Diego. Make plans to make it a full  house with flight jackets.
This day in Naval History
Dec. 3
§  1775—The first American flag is raised aboard a Continental ship when Lt. John Paul Jones hoists the Grand Union Flag during Continental ship Alfred's commissioning at Philadelphia, PA.
§  1863—The armed steamer Cambridge captures schooner J.C. Roker off the coast of North Carolina and the schooner Emma Tuttle off Cape Fear.
§  1943—USS Tinosa (SS 283) sinks the Palau-bound Japanese fleet tanker Azuma Maru northwest of Sonsorol.
§  1956—The first ship converted to support the Fleet Ballistic Missile program, USS Compass Island (EAG 153), is commissioned.
§  1983—Two F-14s are fired upon off Lebanon. The next day, USS John F. Kennedy (CV 67) and USS Independence (CV 62) launch a strike against Syrian anti-aircraft positions. During the strike, two U.S. Navy planes, A-6E and A-7E, are shot down. In the A-6E, Lt. Mark A Lange is killed while Lt. Robert O. Goodman is captured. Goodman is released Jan. 1984. 
Thanks to CHINFO
Executive Summary:
Today's national headlines include the passing of 41st president and Navy veteran George H.W. Bush, the conclusion of the G20 summit in Argentina, and China rolling back a number of tariffs that affect the U.S. auto industry. Vice Adm. Scott A. Stearney was found dead in his quarters in Bahrain on Saturday reports CNN. "Scott Stearney was a decorated naval warrior. He was a devoted husband and father, and he was a good friend to all of us," said CNO Adm. John Richardson. The Boston Globe reports that thousands gathered in Boston on Saturday for the commissioning of USS Thomas Hudner and to honor its namesake Thomas J. Hudner Jr. and his squadron mate, Jesse L. Brown, the first African-American naval aviator. Additionally, the Miami Herald reported on USNS Comfort's continued efforts to provide medical care to Venezuelan refugees.
·         Today in History
December 3
Lorenzo the Magnificent and his brother Giuliano succeed their father, Piero de Medici, as rulers of Florence, Italy.
France cedes to Spain all lands west of the Mississippi--the territory known as Upper Louisiana.
Illinois admitted into the Union as the 21st state.
The French defeat an Austrian army at the Battle of Hohenlinden, near Munich.
Frederick Douglass and Martin R. Delaney establish the North Star, and anti-slavery paper.
Confederate raiders attack a Federal forage train on the Hardin Pike near Nashville, Tenn.
Confederate General James Longstreet moves his army east and north toward Greeneville. This withdrawal marks the end of the Fall Campaign in Tennessee.
Major General William Tecumseh Sherman meets with slight resistance from Confederate troops at Thomas Station on his march to the sea.
The U.S. Supreme Court orders Industrial Workers of the World (IWW) leaders extradited to Idaho for trial in the Steunenberg murder case.
The United States expels German attaches on spy charges.
French commander Joseph Joffre is dismissed after his failure at the Somme. General Robert Nivelle is the new French commander in chief.
The Allied Conference ends in London where they decide that Germany must pay for the war.
The League of Nations orders Greece to pay an indemnity for the October invasion of Bulgaria.
British reports claim that German soldiers are being trained in the Soviet Union.
The Chinese close in on Pyongyang, Korea, and UN forces withdraw southward.
The National Council of Churches asks the United States to halt the massive bombings in North Vietnam.
The State Department proposes the admission of 10,000 more Vietnamese refugees to the United States.
Eleven are dead and eight injured in a mad rush to see a rock band (The Who) at a concert in Cincinnati, Ohio.
Toxic gas leaks from a Union Carbide plant and results in the deaths of thousands in Bhopal, India.
Presidents George Bush and Mikhail Gorbachev announce the official end to the Cold War at a meeting in Malta.
A test engineer for Sema Group sends the world's first text message, using a personal computer and the Vodafone network.
Representatives of 121 nations sign the Ottawa Treaty prohibiting the manufacture or deployment of antipersonnel landmines; the People's Republic of China, the US and the USSR do not sign.
First manned rocket aircraft delivery of US Mail takes place in Mojave, Cal.
Suicide bombing in Mogadishu, Somalia, kills 25 people, including three ministries of the Transitional Federal Government.
From Admiral Cox on the passing of President George H. W Bush, A good read.
From: Cox, Samuel J SES NHHC, DNS-H
Subject: Passing of President George H.W. Bush
Fellow Flag Officers,
    The passing of President George H.W. Bush has been all over the news and numerous biographies and obituaries can be found on line.  So I will just cover his service in the U.S. Navy during World War II.  (Additional photos, documents, the citation for his Distinguished Flying Cross, and a more detailed service biography can be found on the Naval History and Heritage Command website at
prepared by NHHC staff over the weekend.  An editorial "cartoon" is also worth a look at
bb49d4cd31 showing his Navy Avenger arriving in heaven to meet his wife and young daughter.
    George Bush enlisted in the Navy on his 18th Birthday on 12 Jun 1942.
After 10 months of training he was commissioned an ensign in the U.S. Naval Reserve on 9 Jun 1943, making him one of the youngest naval aviators (for many years it was thought, including by him, that he was "the" youngest.) In September 1943, he was then assigned as pilot and photo officer to Torpedo Squadron FIFTY ONE (VT-51) embarked on the light carrier USS SAN JACINTO
(CVL-30) which was part of Task Force 58.  He participated in the carrier raids on Marcus and Wake Islands, among the earliest combat operations by the new Essex-class carriers and Independence-class light carriers (including SAN JACINTO) just joining the fleet.  He participated in the invasion of the Marianas and the Battle of the Philippine Sea in Jun 1944.
On 19 Jun,  Bush's plane (Avenger torpedo-bomber named "Bar II"
(short for Barbara, his wife) had been caught on the catapult of the SAN JACINTO when a Japanese air raid came in.  Once it was over, he launched to conduct a bombing mission over Guam, but either during the air raid or bombing mission his plane suffered damage and he was forced to ditch the aircraft in the ocean while returning to the ship, a dangerous action that he executed nearly perfectly, and he and both his crewmen were rescued by the U.S. Navy destroyer CLARENCE K. BRONSON.  On 25 July 1944 Bush and another pilot sank a small cargo ship. Ensign Bush was promoted to LTJG on 1 August 1944.
    During a later mission in the vicinity of Palau, one of the planes in his same flight was shot down, killing a close friend, Lieutenant Roland Houle. (This aircraft was located in 2014.  In 2018, the Defense POW-MIA Accounting Agency (DPAA) recovered remains from the aircraft, and positively identified the two aircrewmen, but Houle apparently was lost after he escaped the aircraft and remains missing in action.)  Of the original 16 pilots in the Avenger squadron (VT-51) on SAN JACINTO, half would be killed or captured during the war.
    On 2 Sep 1944, on his 50th combat mission, flying TBM-1C Avenger torpedo-bomber "Bar III," Bush's luck ran out.  During a second day of strikes on Chichi Jima, noted for the extreme intensity of Japanese anti-aircraft fire, his plane was one of a four-ship formation attacking the radio transmitter on Chichi Jima, when his plane was hit while inbound to the target.  Despite the serious damage to his aircraft, Bush nevertheless pressed home his attack, and scored damaging hits, an action for which he would be awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross.  Bush was able to get his damaged aircraft back out over water when he determined that he would not be able to get his plane back to the carrier, nor could he apparently control it well enough to be able to ditch.  (Of note, no other pilots or aircrew who were shot down over or near Chichi Jima survived the war.  Those who survived being shot down were captured and executed by the Japanese, in several cases involving cannibalism.  After the war, the Japanese major general in command of the island was tried and executed for war crimes.)
     Bush was unable to raise either Lieutenant Junior Grade William "Ted"
White in the dorsal turret, or his radioman/gunner Radioman Second Class John Delaney.  Believing that White at least was already dead, Bush elected to bail out.  (LTJG White was not Bush's normal gunner; he was an Intelligence Officer who had taken the gunner's place so that he could observe Chichi Jima's defenses.)  There are some differences in accounts about how badly the aircraft was smoking at the time Bush bailed out, but only he would know how well the aircraft could be controlled.  Aircraft following behind reported seeing two chutes, one presumably was Bush, the other was a streamer and was probably Delaney.  Neither White nor Delaney were ever found.  (In an Avenger, the turret gunner cannot wear a parachute due to space limitation; in the event of a bailout or ditching, the turret gunner must be helped down from the turret by the radioman/ventral gunner, put on his parachute, and exit via a hatch on the underside of the aircraft.
A badly wounded turret gunner would not likely survive either a bailout or a
    Bush was injured when he hit the tail after bailing out, but came to and was able to get into his raft.  A Hellcat fighter from the SAN JACINTO kept Japanese boats from reaching the downed aviator, while other aircraft reached the duty "lifeguard" U.S. submarine, USS FINBACK (SS-230,) via radio and arranged for Bush to be rescued by the sub after being in the water for four hours.  Bush then spent the next 30 days aboard FINBACK, along with four other rescued aviators, for the remainder of her patrol, enduring several depth charge attacks as FINBACK sank two Japanese freighters.  As a result of being on the sub, Bush missed the Battle of Leyte Gulf, but rejoined his squadron for operations in the Philippines (and Typhoon Cobra) flying eight more combat missions.  In one of his last missions, Japanese anti-aircraft fire near Manila Bay blew a hole in his wing, but yet again, Bush pressed home his attack on a Japanese transport ship despite the damage.
   In addition to the Distinguished Flying Cross, Bush would also earn three Air Medals, and SAN JACINTO would be awarded the Presidential Unit Citation.
In December 1945, Bush was returned to the U.S. when his squadron was replaced on SAN JACINTO, where he trained new pilots in a new Torpedo Squadron (VT-153.)  When the war ended, he was released from active duty, and entered Yale University.  He was promoted to Lieutenant in the U.S.
Naval Reserve in 1948 and resigned his commission on 24 October 1955.  And the rest, as they say, is history.
   Although LT Bush left the service of the United States Navy, he never left the service of our country.  Whether one agreed with him politically or not, he set an extraordinary example of service, and did it with exceptional dedication and decency.
  Rest in Peace President George H.W. Bush.
Very respectfully,
Samuel J. Cox
RADM, USN (retired)
Director of Naval History
Curator for the Navy
Director, Naval History and Heritage Command
If you missed it previously this is a fun thing to watch. Thanks to Clyde
some animation, some real time.  unbelievable though

Subject: How the Rover Got to Mars

Here's how the Rover Got to Mars
- - enjoy the journey - - -
Click me

Thanks to Chuck
Some aircraft lost to history!  Amazing given the timeline and near instant development cycle. By 1945-1947 there was a sea change.
Interesting story.
Interesting what might have been, But don't know about 'WWII lasting a bit longer'.…… 
Also, The follow-up (next) video on the Spitfire is great !!!!
Subject: What if.....
 WWII would have lasted just a bit longer?
Thanks to Mugs
  Theodore Roosevelt's ideas on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN in 1907.
'In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language.. And we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.'
Theodore Roosevelt 1907
Thanks to Jon …And Dr. Rich
R.I.P. ….
Old – New Army Uniform
Thanks to Mugs. I remember my dad having to switch to the Air Force Blue uniform from the old "Pinks and Greens" of the Army Air Force.  He was not happy.
Sierra Hotel! I understand they're going to call them "Army Greens" instead of "Pinks & Greens," but whatever they call them I think it's the best looking uniform the US Army ever had! They'll change the blue uniforms back to the optional dress uniform, like it was before. I think in the past, only officers wore the "pink" pants, but now it looks like it'll be Army-wide. They've always been nice looking uniforms.

Maybe I'm a bit biased because the Texas A&M Corps of Cadets still wears Pinks & Greens as their winter Class A's. And just as a note, the 75th Division patch the Lt Col's wearing on the right was my dad's combat division in Europe when they relieved, I think it was, the 82nd Airborne at Bastogne During the Battle of the Bulge.

Good on ya, Army!


New in 2018: Army decision coming on return of 'pinks and greens' uniform
By: Meghann Myers   December 27, 2017
A year in the making, the Army is preparing to make a final decision on bringing back the service's much beloved World War-II dress uniform.
Both Army Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Milley and Sergeant Major of the Army Dan Dailey have been fitted for their own prototypes, a version of the uniform built with feedback from soldiers, Dailey told Army Times in a Nov. 15 interview.
"The males wanted to make it as close to the Marshall uniform as possible," Dailey said, alluding to the belted, olive drab coat worn by then-Chief of Staff Gen. George Marshall. "Because, you know, there were so many different versions being made, and so many different manufacturers during World War II. Back then, we didn't have them all synchronized."
And the women agreed, Dailey said. Women, of course, were not allowed to serve in the active duty Army during that time, and so there was no special, female version of the uniforms.
Female soldiers tapped to provide their feedback opted for a long tie and round service cap over the short neck tab and curve-brimmed service cap of the current women's Army Service Uniform.
They also wanted the jackets to be slightly longer than the original prototype, which hit at the hip bones, and preferred a straight, pencil skirt over a pleated version.
Dailey and his prototype models have been making the rounds in Washington, showing off the uniforms at the annual AUSA meeting and at a reception with lawmakers. Next up, he said, was the Army-Navy game.
"Then the greater American public will see it," Dailey said. "That's our intent. If you love it — tell us. If you hate it — tell us."
After the new year, the development team will be able to get into the details of pricing and mass producing the uniform, as well as laying out regulations for phasing it in
The "pinks and greens" are meant to be an official occasion uniform that would be issued at basic training, Dailey has said, bumping the blue ASU up to formal wear.
"We don't have real manufacturers making these things — they're just one-off prototypes being made by our people," he said. "A lot of the fabric we had in stock, believe it or not, from a study that was done on this uniform when we got rid of the greens."
They could start out a little more expensive than the current ASU but level out as production ramps up, Dailey said, but enlisted soldiers and officers will likely have three to four years before they have to buy one.
"It gives us plenty of time to pay the enlisted soldiers' portions of it through their clothing allowance, so by the time they're required to have it, they've been paid in full," Dailey said.
It's official: Army approves 'pinks and greens' uniform on Veterans Day
By: Meghann Myers   November 11
The Army was able to straighten out its congressionally mandated notification requirements in time to announce on Sunday, Veterans Day, that the much anticipated "Army Greens" will indeed be your next service uniform.
Formerly known as the "pinks and greens," the World War II-era officers uniform could go Army-wide as soon as 2020, according to a release that was posted Sunday to the Army's website but was not shared through any of its social media channels.
"The current Army Blues Uniform will return to being a formal dress uniform, while the Army Greens will become the everyday business-wear uniform for all soldiers," the release said.
The new uniform will be "cost-neutral," according to the Army, though details of the budgeting plan were not immediately available.
Sergeant Major of the Army Dan Dailey told Army Times in September that while higher quality materials translated to a dollar-for-dollar more expensive uniform, the fielding plan would negate some of those extra costs in the aggregate.
For example, the release said, new soldiers will receive the uniform when they reach their first unit of assignment.
This, theoretically, would relieve the cost of issuing and tailoring uniforms for soldiers in basic training who end up dropping out, or whose weight fluctuates, requiring more alterations.
The uniforms are also expected to last longer ― about six years, Army spokesman Lt. Col. Isaac Taylor told Army Times.
"We are purchasing a higher quality uniform with a longer service life, and we are executing a longer phase-in period to remain cost neutral," Taylor said, but he did not provide a price breakdown.
The standard uniform set-up will require pants and brown leather oxfords for both men and women. Women will have the option to wear a pencil skirt and pumps. Everyone will also be able to buy a leather bomber jacket as an outerwear option.
The rest of the Army would have until 2028 to pick up the new uniform, the release said
Monday Morning Humor-Hanukkah           Thanks to Al
Hanukkah, also known as the Festival Of Lights and the Feast Of Dedication, is a Jewish holiday that is observed for eight days and nights. This year it runs from December 2 to December 10. It's a serious occasion, of course, but I believe humor has its place everywhere, and so here's a collection of funny Hanukkah jokes and puns for you to enjoy.
     Mary goes to the post office to buy stamps for her Hanukkah cards one year. She says to the cashier, "Please may I have 50 Hanukkah stamps?"
     The cashier asks, "What denomination?"
     Miriam says, "Oy vey, has it come to this? Okay, give me 6 Orthodox, 12 Conservative, and 32 Reform."
     A latke gave his mother a gift.
     As he did so, she said to him, "Awww, why are you so sweet?"
     He replied, "I guess that's just the way I yam."
     Stan and John are walking to school one day and Stan is describing his new Playstation to John.
     "Where did you get that?" John asks.
     "I got it last night for Hanukkah," says Stan.
     "What's Hanukkah?" John asks.
     Stan replies, "It's the Jewish holiday where we get presents every night for eight nights to celebrate the festival of lights."
     "Wow, I wish we got that!" John exclaims. The next day on the way to school John runs up to Stan, curious to see what he got the previous night.
     He sees that Stan is upset and asks him, "What's wrong? Where's your present from last night?"
     Stan holds up a ball of crumpled wrapping paper as he says, "It was leftovers night."
     One Hanukkah, a Jewish husband said to his wife, "I think there's something wrong with these latkes, dear. They taste awful."
     His wife replied, "That shows you what you know. The recipe book says they're delicious."
     My mother once gave me two sweaters for Hanukkah.
     The next time we visited, I made sure to wear one. As we entered her home, instead of the expected smile, she said, "Aaron, what's the matter? You didn't like the other one?"
     It was Hanukkah and the tiny Hungarian village was afraid they may not have any latkes because they'd run out of flour.
     Rudi, the Rabbi, was called upon to help solve the problem.
     He said, "Don't worry, you can substitute matzo meal for the flour, and the latkes will be just as delicious."
     A woman looks doubtfully at her husband and asks him, "Samuel, do you think it'll work?"
     "Of course," Samuel replies, "Everybody knows Rudolph the Rab knows grain, dear."
     It was just before Hanukkah and Miriam, a grandmother, was giving directions to her grown up grandson who was coming to visit with his wife for the first time since Miriam had moved to her new apartment.
     "You come to the front door of the condominium complex. I am in apartment 3A." Miriam told her grandson.
     'There's a big panel at the door. Use your elbow to push button 3A and I will buzz you in.
     Come inside and the elevator is on your right. Get in the elevator and user your elbow to press the 3 button.
     When you get out my apartment is on the left. Use your elbow to ring my doorbell and I'll open the door for you."
     "Grandma, that sounds easy," her grandson replied, "But why am I hitting all these buttons with my elbow."
     Miriam answered, "You're coming to visit empty handed?"
     Admiring the Christmas trees displayed in his neighbour's windows, Nathan asks his father, "Daddy, can we have a Hanukkah Tree?"
     "What? No, of course not." says his father.
     "Why not?" asks Nathan again.
     Bewildered, his father replies, "Well, Nathan, because the last time we had dealings with a lighted bush we spent 40 years in the wilderness."
Wishing a Happy Hanukkah to all my Jewish friends,

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